Ordering Scatter Plot 





What It Shows


The same MFE vs MAE scatter, but color-coded by ordering - whether the trade hit its maximum favorable excursion or maximum adverse excursion first:


Green dots (MFE First): Price moved in your favor before moving against you

Red dots (MAE First): Price moved against you first, then recovered

Gray dots (Tie): MFE and MAE were reached at the same bar


The legend shows counts and percentages for each category.




How to Read It


Color Distribution Patterns:


Pattern

Meaning

Mostly green (>60% MFE-first)

Signal moves quickly in your favor - good for trailing stops

Mostly red (>60% MAE-first)

Trades typically experience drawdown before profit - need patience

Mixed colors evenly

No consistent pattern - use fixed TP/SL

Green in upper-left, red in lower-left

Best trades are fast movers; struggling trades had drawdown first



Location Correlation:


Green dots high on Y-axis: MFE-first trades produce good profits

Red dots high on Y-axis: Even MAE-first trades recover well

Red dots low on Y-axis: MAE-first trades don't recover - filter these



How to Use This to Improve Trading

1. Choose Your Management Approach:


High MFE-First rate (>55%): Use trailing stops. Your trades tend to move quickly in your favor, so lock in gains as price advances.

High MAE-First rate (>55%): Use fixed TP/SL with wider stops. Your trades need room to work before becoming profitable.

Mixed (~50/50): Either approach works. Test both.


2. Trailing Stop Design:


If MFE-first trades are common:


• Start trailing immediately after a small move in your favor

• Use a tighter trailing distance

• Focus on capturing the initial momentum


If MAE-first trades are common:


• Don't trail until price shows clear direction

• Use a wider trailing distance

• Be prepared for drawdown before profit


3. Filter Low-Quality Trades:


If red dots (MAE-first) in the lower-left consistently fail to recover:


• These trades experience drawdown and don't profit

• Find entry conditions that produce these

• Filter them from your signal


4. Validate Stop Placement:


For MAE-first trades (red dots):

• Check how far left they extend (maximum drawdown)

• Your stop must survive this drawdown

• If stops are too tight, you'll exit before the recovery


For MFE-first trades (green dots):

• Tight stops work well because drawdown is minimal

• Focus on trailing to maximize the favorable move








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